Ivocolor re-revisited.
No that I have drug my self away from the pool in Dallas (see Skramy's post for reference) here are some cases with the ivocolor that I did last week.
The first case is an extra bridge I had laying around that I use to test glazes on. So it was already sintered and just need esthetic enhancement. This a the same bridge using two different lighting scenarios to show the optics. This is straight out of the oven and allowed to cool. As you can see it is similar to the GC luster paste in that it looks a little grainy.
Here it is after polishing.
Now of course these are out of the mouth so how does it look in the mouth.
Here is a case of two centrals.
The patient had a very dark stump shade on #9
These are MT blocks for the finals. There was an opaquer used on the stump to help block out the color.
Glazing after already sintering is the current recommended method by Ivoclar. What we are actually testing is how does it look and survive with a single firing in the blue state. Let's take a look.
This is a crown my assistant did in a single firing. She did say she went a little crazy playing around with the brown in the grooves
Here is one that I did on an HT block in a single fire. I would have had pics in the mouth but the patient's tissue was bleeding like crazy after clean up.
And here is one fired and put in the mouth.
My take on this material is this. It applies very nice. The colors stay in place and don't tend to get a blotchy. I am still working on the consistency of the glaze(which has to be cut with liquid) and essences ( which come as powders). However the colors are vibrant and gives a nice natural look to the restorations.
When two fires are used you get a little bit of grainy look to it, that could be from my consistency of my mix, but with a little polish you get a nice texture that looks natural. Very similar to luster paste.
When you single fire you get a nice glassy glaze. This is a low fusing ceramic so when by firing it on the higher Emax cycles you are heating the glaze way past its melting point so it becomes very smooth upon cooling.
Also because it is a low fusing porcelain you can use it on any material that we currently glaze. For anterior's you get something very similar to Luster Paste and for posteriors with a single firing you get a glaze that is almost as glassy as the Identco spray glaze. Also since it is low fusing you can use the liquid glaze with the P3 faster fire cycle.
And yes you can use it on the new Zirconium.
Thank you for update! What is a difference between e.max stain and glaze kit we use now and new ones?
You can make the temperature 2 degrees less when you applied second time and see the difference. Gregory
Great looking cases Darin! Thanks for all the info...excited to try it out especially with the ease of application and less blotching that both you and Mike share.
On 4/4/2016 at 9:41 am, Gregory Mark said...Thank you for update! What is a difference between e.max stain and glaze kit we use now and new ones?
You can make the temperature 2 degrees less when you applied second time and see the difference. Gregory
Gregory
This glaze has a lower fusing temperature than the Emax glaze so like I said we can use it on any material we currently can fire. It works on empress, emax, vita, celtra etc.
Instead of A, B, C and D shades there are dentinal shades that are applied. There is a nice chart that shows which ones to use for each shade. The depth of the dentin shades seems to allow a broader range of values to be covered. There are also 23 colors for the essences. So a lot of choices to create your own custom color palate. There are 3 incisal shades to create enamel effects. One is purple and I think may be usable like the custom paste that Bill Marai's creates with luster paste. It does not come in the base kit so I have it coming my way. When I get it I will post here if it works the same.
Thanks for the info Darin. Skrammy's been talking you up for a few days on this so that pool time seemed like it took forever!!
Great cases and comparisons. It doesn't sound like it's a whole lot more user friendly than Lustre at this point but maybe it will get there! I like the idea of keeping it within the Ivoclar family for materials.
On 4/4/2016 at 12:08 pm, Kristine Aadland said... Thanks for the info Darin. Skrammy's been talking you up for a few days on this so that pool time seemed like it took forever!! Great cases and comparisons. It doesn't sound like it's a whole lot more user friendly than Lustre at this point but maybe it will get there! I like the idea of keeping it within the Ivoclar family for materials.
I took a lot to get me out of the pool that day. Then I had two days of Accept. But now I am back to the quiet of the office 
I actually find it more user friendly that Luster Paste. Now I don't have the experience with Luster paste that Skramy and I am still playing around with the ivocolor to make it even easier.
I got the basic kit the other day so I thought I'd try it out real quick on an extra blue state eMax I had laying around. This did not go into patients mouth. My initial thoughts are it's okay. I placed glaze first then just the SD2 shade paste on the cervical and a little of the blue incisal paste on the incisal. A little runny if you're not careful. I'm sure this is great stuff in the hands of a trained ceramist and probably meant for them and not necessarily one-visit cases. I did fire all at once on P3. I don't think the photos do it justice because it looks better clinically. I need more practice and time with it or watch someone that knows how to use it. But I think if you have Indenco's system, GC Lustre Paste NF and this you'll have all the bases covered.
This is our first case. We used Ivocolor after crystallizing. I will post the intraoral photos once it is seated next week.
Farhad
On 4/5/2016 at 1:14 pm, David Edelson said...I got the basic kit the other day so I thought I'd try it out real quick on an extra blue state eMax I had laying around. This did not go into patients mouth. My initial thoughts are it's okay. I placed glaze first then just the SD2 shade paste on the cervical and a little of the blue incisal paste on the incisal. A little runny if you're not careful. I'm sure this is great stuff in the hands of a trained ceramist and probably meant for them and not necessarily one-visit cases. I did fire all at once on P3. I don't think the photos do it justice because it looks better clinically. I need more practice and time with it or watch someone that knows how to use it. But I think if you have Indenco's system, GC Lustre Paste NF and this you'll have all the bases covered.
David
Did you use the pre mixed glaze or the powder? What consistency did you have it at? You don't need to add much of the liquid. I have been working with the consistency to get it to work with both one fire and two at the same consistency, to see if it is possible.
Darin I used the glaze paste with just a drop of liquid to change the consistency a little. I will play with it some more this week.
Farhad- I think it is amazing as a specialist that you are going this extra mile! You work looks beautiful.
Thanks Kristine. I am trying to get to the results that you and Dan and others on this site are achieving.
Farhad
On 4/6/2016 at 7:49 pm, Charles LoGiudice said...Farhad,
You are making me look like a beginner.
Au contraire my friend. Just to be clear I have no clue how to do any of this stuff. I have a dedicated staff member who does all of this for me. I just take the pictures....And I am very picky on the end result because of all of you guys.
Farhad
What programat cycle are you running this on for 2 fires? I tried a few today using single fire but the p3 is too hot and the shades and essence's just melt off.
The ivocolor has its own firing cycle. It's around 12-13 minutes. The numbers are in the booklet that comes with the beginner kit
Also one thing I have found. The shades and essence have glaze in them so you don't need a ton of glaze to start with. Also make sure to mix the shades well before use. Otherwise there is some separation.
I played some more with it, and with 2 fires this system is purtty.
I programmed the firing schedule into the CS2 and that made a world of difference. Some shade, some essence and indenco fluoro spray glaze
Again another experiment case. This time took Darin's advice and only used glaze paste on areas I didn't use shade pastes and Essence stains. So in effect the shade paste was the glaze in the cervical and occlusal and the incisal paste on the remaining occlusal similar technique I use with GC Lustre Paste NF. Used the glaze paste in te mid third and then used Mohagany and White Essence stains on the occlusal. Came out great.
Darin thanks. Again I don't think the photos do it justice. Looks better in my palm. Forgot to mention this was a one shot single fire blue phase stain and glaze P3 cycle fire as well.
Thanks Dan. If anyone is going to get the intro kit I suggest adding the SD3 Dentin shade and the IS2 incisal shade as well. They are ordered separately. You can order directly from Ivoclar Shop.
https://us.shop.ivoclarvivadent.com/en-us/p/ips-ivocolor-shade-refills
Just a heads up however. It's a lab product so your Patterson rep won't know about it and your Ivoclar rep may have to talk with the lab rep to get it
Here are two Emax screw retained crowns on #19 and 20. Single fire on the long cycle since they were abutment crown.
The above screw-retained Emax crown seated today....Ivoclar/color beauty all around.
Farhad
Nice cases. More stuff to buy and try 
maybe? Colors and characterizations look really spot on.
Here are some more Ivocolor cases that I have done recently. I did these four in about 3 hours. These were done in one firing.
With one firing the appearance gets to be pretty glassy. It worked in this patients case. I may still polish them down a bit with some diashine in the mouth but they actually match even better when not under the flash of a camera.
One of the advantages of glazes like Ivocolor is you can use them on any of the ceramics that we use. Here is a case that came in this afternoon. A 71 yr old lady broke her front tooth.
This was done with bioindividual since the #9 was so recessed. I could have matched the texture a little better in the cervical third. I maybe able to replicate it when she comes back in in two weeks for her recare visit. Sorry for the bleeding this was directly after cementation. I will post the new photo if I am able retexture it post insertion.
